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starting to say, you know what, guys? maybe we should go along with the obama plan to extend the rates for the middle class and deal with the rest after the new year. that probably is their best play at this point, because that's such a damaging political point. people understand that republicans are holding the middle class tax cuts hostage in order to fight for tax cuts for this very small percent of the population, and that's politically devastating. if you look at the position boehner's in, it's remarkable in a way that he's already admitted that we have to raise revenues on the wealthiest individuals, and that hasn't come without a price. you already see on the right between that and his movements of some committee members assignments that there is a mini rebellion starting on the right. the hash tag fireboehner is taking off. this is something he has to watch. the compromise is not his initial starting position, which is already unacceptable to people like jim demint and others. >> governor dean, if you looked at this from the republican perspective and you go with what horowitz'
or deduction. increase the revenue. president obama says no i need rates to go up on the rich. now he's saying rates have to go up. they have to go up on the rich. but then we can talk about lower them again next year. we'll chat. we'll have more time then we can discuss the loopholes abductional earn tough deductions to rates. >> we are 400 days away from the first primaries of the 2014 elect cycle. every day we get closer to those primaries the likelihood of a big deal, something large taking place gets less. so the president is saying there, never minds. what he's saying there -- he knows the political reality of this, having suffered the worst mid-term defeat of any president in 60 years. he knows what happens in mid-term elections. what he's saying is give me what i want now and i'll talk about it later but i'll talk about it at a time when it is next to impossible politically for either party to do anything that doesn't absolutely throw their respective bases. megyn: you had a power play piece yesterday that was all about how the president in your view is intent here not so much on winni
check. do people agree with the obama administration, this threat of going off the cliff if rates aren't reached. here's what nancy pelosi had to say about geithner's remarks. let me play it. >> if there is no agreement, then the fiscal cliff has to be dealt with. i didn't see it if they decent this, we do that. i saw it as a statement of fact. it's not a threat. it's a prediction. if there's no agreement, we go over the cliff. let's hope we can have an agreement. >> what do you make of the way she put it? it's not a threat. she said, listen, these are the facts. >> nice little economy you have there. nice little economy you have there. it would be a shame it if anything happened to it. that's not a threat. look, we have to start looking at what happens if we do, in fact, go over the so-called cliff, and what happens is, you know, one thing is we take a huge bite out of the deficit. we do it in a crude may, and there would be immediate attempts to fix it and fine-tune it and take some back. some would probably get through. if you actually want to look at it from a policy standpoint, it
. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. >> so is it a bluff when the obama administration says they're willing to go off the cliff if a deal is not reached on rates? >> i don't think it's a bluff. if you look at the reality of what happens, all the leverage which i -- right now clearly the white house has. they get more leverage if we go over their cliff. you can argue that would not send a good message to the country, to the world. it would prove that we are dysfunctional and cannot govern, et cetera, et cetera. in terms of dealing with the policy problem, which is you have this massive and growing debt, you have to bring in more revenues. there's multiple ways to do it, but critical ways to raise rates on the top end. it was what the election was about. republicans want to play the game where they think they get something. at the end of the day they lose worse if we go over the cliff. >> that's an interesting insight because you have alan simpson on the "today" show asked dp one side is a winner or los
the tax cut at a million. here is what he wants to do. an increase in the individual income tax rate for the affluent may be unavoileable. obama did spend the last two years proselytizing for such a hike and voters were well aware of it when they re-elected him. but the white house has said that the rates don't have to return to clinton era levels. obama's nemesis as he often told us are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate democrats tried to offer this to republicans last time. remember the last time we did this they rejected it. >> it works for them now. they can say all we want is the schumer deal. >> right now they don't have the leverage to get the schumer deal. they rejected
they are defending -- keeping the current tax rates for the wealthy. at the end of the day president obama is selling a simple message, i want to keep taxes low for middle class americans, and republicans look like -- i'm worried they're in the position of looking this, if they don't care about the middle class and want to keep tax rates low for wealthier americans. >> yes or no, is he right? yes or no? >> i don't think so. it's far too easy. >> he's right. democratic strategists are giddy. for two years they've been trying to make this argument, the republicans are going to hold up -- >> let me go back. i think he's wrong. i think ultimately if we don't get a deal, it's bad for president obama, bad for his legacy, and bad for democrats. >> i think you're right, but i also think that your party lost this election, they should act accordingly, and they're not doing it. >> john boehner didn't lose. john boehner still -- >> that is exactly where you're all screwed up. you know, when tip o'neill was speaker with a lot more seats than you guys have, he never claimed he had a national mandate because he sa
rates for social security. this hasn't presented itself as a party that wants to cut spending. on one hand you have president obama's proposal, which most agree is the responsible way of raising the debt, raising rates. and responsible cuts on entitlements and discretionary spending versus republicans who are divided against something that is a chicken hawk when it comes to the deficits, that is the boehner approach, or the more extremist position which is absolutely nothing.ç so this is an extraordinary position for the republican party to have evolved into. >> you must respond to what julian just said. >> i like julian an awful lot but i think what he said is entirely wrong. it's fascinating president obama last july, july of 2011, said we can get $1.2 trillion in revenue where we don't have to raise marginal tax rates and close loopholes and julian says most economists agree, in fact, this won't add to the deficit. look, you're only talking about $89 billion a year of the tax dollars of top two drapes. julian and i will agree, however, this deal is not serious. you need to have a
it does take a bite out of the rich but president obama held firm to tax rate hike on the wealthiest. let's listen to the back and forth. >> revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes. but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see it -- a single dime in tax increases next year. >> so, john boehner, the speaker for the republican party in this partisan fight is saying, he's already socking it to the rich. he's willing to raise their taxes in various forms but just not the rate. isn't he agreeing in principle to the president's argument of fairness? isn't he in a weaker position to deny a rate change? governor? >> sure he is, chris. number one, he hasn't specified what
, that they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am. >> you're saying to capitulate to obama who's -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, sean. >> what was that? i mean joy. >> stop making sense, ann. >> we should have led with that. it is like ann coulter is admitting the republicans lost and some deal should be in order. >> when ann coulter is the sanest voice in your party it might be time to going back to being the wigs. it's a it tough time for republicans. she's right. the republicans at this point are negotiating the terms of their surrender on the tax issue. from a pr standpoint and a real standpoint they can't look like all they care about is defending those top 2% rates. >> absolutely. >> if i can go back to what joan said, i think the problem is that if you look at ann coulter even, feeds into the same thing, people like jim demint may be leaving the senate but it's like the movie "aliens" he's seated the host with the alien baby. >> oh, god. >> all these people there, the ted cruzs, marco rubios who put a nicer pac
at a faster rate. the republican leadership had taken up and passed some of president obama's job initiatives including the american jobs act and had passed the middle income tax cut. >> let's cut to the chase. one of those congressional members is lying. either the republicans are right on cutting taxes will add jobs or the president's stimulus policies are fueling the economic recovery in this country. joining me tonight to sort out the facts, david cay johnston, offer of "the fine print." let's start with the job growth. unemployment hit rock bottom near the beginning of the -- under the bush administration. this is changing the color here is when president obama took over in january of '09. who is responsible for this turn around? >> the president and it would be a better turn around if the republicans had allowed a bigger stimulus. we'd have many more jobs. >> you'd make the case we didn't spend enough on the economy? >> we wasted 40% of that on tax cuts for small business, which is inherently savings and not stimulus. it was a real policy mistake. is this historic? >> we're going in the
for the top 2%. >> so are you saying then for pr purposes, that they should give into obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am. >> i'm sorry, that was not one of the top conservative minds. that was ann coulter, but you have to and it to her. she's onto something there. a new quinnipiac poll shows 65% of americans support higher taxes on incomes over $250,000. the same survey showing the president's approval rating at a three-year high, 53%. the highest level since the body of osama bin laden was dumped in the north arabian sea. perhaps that's why senate majority leader harry reid felt confident enough to declare that until republicans move on tax rates, more spending cuts are off the table. >> the president made clear, i have tried to make very clear, until there's some movement in tax rates, we're -- i'm not talking about any other proposals, not about where there will be a cut here or a cut there. >> no. as a matter of fact, the only cuts the senate is talking about today are in terms of staff on the republican side. with the surprise news today that senator jim de
issues out there. those top rates will raise -- even if president obama gets everything he asked for, about 400 billion. and he wants $1.6 trillion. that's one quarter of the revenues he's seeking. gwen: politically that seems to be the fight he wants to have. >> he wants to put the republicans in the box and blame them for this. let them feel the political pain that comes with this. because his position on this polls very well. most people in this country say they want the president's solution. the trick is most people on capitol hill know that and can they find an artful way to get to a deal where they don't feel too badley humiliated. they're going to lose on the politics eventually i think everyone thinks. can they do it and will the president let them grace fully? -- gracefully? >> we haven't heard a lot of sniping or leaking but when do they start getting antsy? >> he's never had more power or influence than he has right now over them. they had a rough two years and one of the worst reputations of any congress in history for its lack of achievement and he, through that past two
't get a lot worse than it did. >> okay. this shows the overall unemployment rate under president obama's administration. which of the president's policies have helped the most in this? >> well, very crucial to this has been his decision to get congress to extend unemployment benefits, surprisingly. because people, when they have that money, are spending it back in the economy. remember, every 50th person you meet statistically only has food stamps today as income. and that's the result of these years of the republicans policies. so having unemployment and >> send thing unemployment benefits next year would be very important to continue to bring this number down and have businesses hire more people, because they have customers with money in their pockets to buy products and services. >> this is what could have happened if congress failed to pass the recovery act. the center on budget and policy priorities says that we've added almost $1 million more jobs because of the stimulus package. why are the republicans fighting stimulus spending now? why? is it they don't want to see president o
-called fiscal cliff that it could imperil any gains we're making. >> the associated press said president obama's approval rating is higher it's been since osama bin laden was killed so the president is riding high right now. >> he is. he's just been re-elected and that helps. there's no question he's going to use all of this as leverage. republicans i talked to on capitol hill they'll concede on the tax issue he has the leverage. if he wants to increase taxes on wealthier americans, he can find a way to do that. how much, though, is he willing to risk his relationship on capitol hill for? don't forget, there are other things they want to get done. i think both sides would like to figure out a big debt deal, get that off the table and move on. if they can't, it will poison that well for a couple of years to come. >> the other big talker across the country, gay marriage and what's going on in washington state as of thursday in maryland as of what we had thursday as well, right? january 1st. but people could start signing up for their marriage licenses. >> nine states now around the country that
in recent days. deputy whip congressman tom cole of oklahoma. he said the gop should agree to obama's proposal to extend bush tax rates for households that make less than $250,000. and they should do that deal right now, deal with the rest later. boehner said no way. and then tom cole said boehner should not offer a counterproposal to the fiscal cliff deal the president presented. boehner offered a proposal yesterday. i asked cole if he's frustrated with john boehner. >> no, not in the least. look, i support the speaker. and we're actually not very far apart on anything. and, you know, at the end of the day, he's going to negotiate a deal. it will probably be a challenging vote for a lot of people. i always support him. i would expect i will again and try and persuade others. just to be clear, i'm not for raising taxes on anybody. i think it's a mistake. i think all republicans believe that. however, you have to recognize the reality that at the end of the month, tax rates for every american that pays income tax are going to go up. so there is an area that we do agree with the presi
in a news conference last month obama suggested he might let the top rate rise to levels somewhat lower than a 39.6%. that's the washington post this morning. below that, governors say the fiscal cliff would hurt their states' economies. several governors met at the white house yesterday and with political leaders to say something needs to be done or their economies and on the state level will be heard. -- be hurt. let's go to walter in new jersey, independent caller. good morning. caller: good morning. i don't know what's wrong with these people, because they have to come to some kind of agreement. the gop has to give ground, taxes wouldybody's go up just to save 2%. it just does not cut it. it is a bad move politically and bad for the country. host: polloi in johnsonville, virginia. -- floyd. caller: i was thinking about the fiscal cliff. i don't think that's the problem at. the problem is when we fell off the moral cliff. our president said gay marriage was ok. and america killing so many babies. side,e get back on god's everything else will take care of itself. that's the way it is. a gu
think we're nowhere, period. >> thursday treasury secretary tim geithner presented obama's plan, including $1.4 trillion in tax increases. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> president obama also proposed a $16 billion of spending cuts. >> i'm just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. >> the house speaker says republicans put increased revenues including efforts to close tax loopholes and put the tax cuts on the table instead of raising tax rates for anyone. >> if there's another way to get income from upper income americans that doesn't hurt our economy, then why wouldn't we consider it. >> those are publicly unchanged deadlines. whether political theater or political reality, there's more to going over the fiscal cliff far beyond hypothetical. >> i think we're going over the clif. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans because they're unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's the choice we have to make. >> emily joins us live from washington and so ellie, did anyone on
. >> that's the special beer that you would drink to get you to dance the gangnam style. president obama and john boehner did the gangnam style, your approval ratings might go up. "outfront" tonight, tom mcclintock of the budget committee. thank you for taking the time. we just showed a lot of your colleagues going home on a wednesday night after working a three-day week. obviously, that's an image that frustrates so many americans. why are people going home before getting this done? >> well, unfortunately, we're not using the standard process where the house passes its version, the is that the passes its version, then a conference committee is very good in revolving impasses like this between the two houses. unfortunately, none of that's being used and i think that's one of the reasons why these things are blocking down now so regularly. we've abandoned a process that works very well when we use it. >> john boehner presented a plan to the president and in that plan, he put $800 billion in revenue from the wealthy on the table. he said he would close loopholes and those people would pay
to avoid the fiscal cliff over republicans. the same poll gave president obama his highest approval rating in three years, with 53% support. in the next hour and a half, president obama will continue the great reasonableness tour of 2012. visiting a middle class family in northern virginia with the aim of putting more pressure on congress to extend middle income tax cuts. majority leader harry reid did his part for the cause on the senate floor today. >> so it's apparent how this will end. the only question is, when will it end? it's how long will speaker boehner make middle class families wait for relief and how long will he force the financial markets to wait for uncertainty. >> joining the panel now, the sage of capitol hill, the seasonally elegant luke russert. >> thank you so much for having me. >> you get a special intro when you arrive on set a little late. thrilled to have you here, with ongoing deliberation on capitol hill, you are the eyes. >> eyes and ears hopefully. yet i'm here, congress is recessed this week. >> always a reason, my friend. the fact that tim geithner came out
i understand. are you saying then forp r purposes, that they should give in to obama on the tax rate. >> no exactly -- well, yeah, i guess i am. >> you're saying capitulate to obama -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, sean. >> well, the fact is, sean, we do have a revenue problem. 15% of gdp going to revenue. republicans on the right should at least pay for what they spend on. at least pay for the guns and ammo. the louisiana governor bobby jindal wants to make -- he's not blind to reality. he writes in today's politico, any reading of the headlines over the past week indicates that republicans are fighting to protect the rich and cut benefits for seniors. it may be possible to have worse political positioning than that, but i'm not so sure how. your thoughts, chris. do you conform to the thinking here of our smartest possible colleague here, chuck, that this is something that the president realizes is a true cliff, you don't want to go over it, and he will recognize a good deal if he see it is before christmas and take it? >> sure. yes, i do agree with
for generations to come, it's going to be difficult for me to oppose higher rates for the rich." president obama and speaker boehner spoke by phone yesterday for the first time in a week. white house press secretary jay carney i find very interesting refused to characterize the conversation. let's bring in congressman chris van hollen of maryland tonight. good to have you with us. >> always good to when with you. >> you bet. are democrats united on this rate issue? we keep hearing it. now that boehner is starting to move a little bit and say that the money is going to come from the wealthy, yet he hasn't identified these reductions, where do democrats stand on rates? is that the bottom line? the rates have to go up? >> the rates have to two up, ed. it's a matter of simple math, as the president has said. which is why in the house of representatives the democrats filed what's called a discharge petition that would require the speaker to bring to the floor of the house the senate bill, the senate democratic bill that immediately would extend tax relief to all middle income taxpayers and would ask
in america. >> well, president obama is very firm, michael, professor, on the rates. is he going to get it? >> i think so. look, the best thing that happened to john boehner was obama's victory because it was able to -- he was able to purge the kind of tea partyism to the right of him to shore up his own interests and, look, i think as donna has indicated, with all optimism here, john boehner wants to get it done because he's a work a day kind of political activist. he wants to make sure stuff gets done. he wants to leave a legacy. he knows he can't do that if he's opposed to what most americans want to do right now which is keep the rates going up for those who are at the top. why can't the rich pay their fair share? and i think the republicans have seen the handwriting on the wall. >> 65% of the people support the president when it comes to higher rates. donna, who has the next move? >> i think that the house caucus has got to permit boehner to put the cards on the table. the president has been abundantly clear he's available to be in a compromise -- to compromise, but what he's not goin
of a compromise that may or may not be in the works. an increase in the top marginal tax rate, short of what obama has been asking for, but still an increase and changes to medicare with the eligibility age in exchange for that on the democratic side. we were talking about, from the democratic standpoint, the medicare issue. i want to talk about the rate issue. there can't be a deal, unless republicans, even on these terms can't be a deal unless republicans go along with increasing the tax rate. there hasn't been a single republican willing to vote to increase tax rates. i want to bring in a former member of mitt romney's health care advisory group. blog on forbes health care. i want to ask you about that piece of it. we have been talking about this potential deal of 37% of the top marginal tax rate. do you see a scenario where republicans would vote for that in congress? >> well, first of all, i have to respond to this interesting hyperbole about medicare death sentence. if you raise the retirement age for medicare, we have the affordable care act as the backstop. everybody is still poverty level
obama talk about capping those interest rates that are going up. they have doubled in many circumstances. they could tax them. they could for give those interest rates all together or they have seen talked about for giving some of these students loans that exist out there today. because 93 percent of all student loans in the last year were issued by the government you are talking about taxpayers ofrnt hook for this. as it goes away we are all paying for it. this is a huge problem in this country nearly a trillion dollars in outstanding student debt right now. 956 billion on the table. >> so what is the solution? >> they certainly -- -- the president has talked about interest rates are a big problem right now. record survey shows more than 50 percent of 18 to 24-year-olds are moving into their parents when they grad kuwauate college. they have capped the interest rates for give them for a certain amount of time or forgive a certain amount of debt or back off at issuing the federal loans patti. let the loans go more private maybe then we won't have colleges jacking up the tuition rates and
in a stalemate. president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the wealthy and a permanent extension of the debt ceiling, the government's ability to borrow money, be part of the deal. >> he's assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars out any limit at all. >> reporter: republicans who say they're open to raising tax revenue say they will only do so in exchange for deep spending cuts. if washington can't strike a deal, one casualty will be compensation for the long-term unemployed. that means people like linda vega, are worried. >> christmas and things of that nature are probably off the table. >> reporter: aides to president obama and speaker boehner met yesterday afternoon. but that meeting ended with no discernible signs of progress. rob and paula? >> thanks, tahman. >>> once the numbers are all tallied, they're going to show that the 2012 presidential election was the most expensive in history. campaign finance statements put the total cost at well above $2 billion. virtually split down the middle between president obama and mitt romney. that includes nearly $86 milli
the participation rate, arthel, and you go back four years when say president obama -- or four and a half years when president obama came into office it was at the 66% participation rate. meaning 66% of people participated in the polling and now it is 63. you are seeing less people participating because they are dropping out of those numbers. hence sometimes those numbers will go down and be misleading. lastly i want to say, arthel, when you look into the numbers you will see that 50,000 jobs of the 150,000 jobs that have been created over the last six months , month by month, you will see that 50,000 of those are in the retail restaurant sector. why that is is because there is a lot of part-time work going on right now for the holiday season. as we can see outside in new york city, a lot of people are shopping and a lot of people are going to restaurants. >> that's true. and part of the 146,000 new jobs you are seeing added in november is due to folks building more homes and buying more cars and supposedly if we avoid going over this fiscal cliff it will be good for the manufacturing sector. you ar
, but still no breakthrough. president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the wealthy and a permanent extension of the debt ceiling be part of a deal. >> he shows what he is really after is assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars. >> republicans who said they are open to raising tax revenue said they will only do so in exchange for deep spending cuts. if no deal happens one casualty would be long-term unemployment help. >> christmas would be off the table. >> aides to speaker boehner and president obama met yesterday. >> we are finding out what folks in the d.c. area think about this club battle. a new poll shows that 57% of respondents believed that the president and congress will reach a deal. 78% found that both sides should compromise. >> and outspoken member of the tea party is leaving the senate. senator jim demint will leave his job in january. he is taking a job at the heritage foundation. >> you may soon be able to retire at your phones airplane mode. that is because "the new york times" reports that the faa may relax the rules on electronics. r
make a compromise. as he said today he's not getting anywhere at all, okay? mr. obama wants higher tax rates. he also wants more revenues from capping deductions. he wants no entitlement reform or nothing to speak of. no discussion of spending cuts. obama wants even more spending increases. and a lot of republicans, conservatives, are saying you know what? we don't want a tax hike at all. we give boehner credit but we don't want a tax hike. this is not the time. it's a very anemic economy. let's just let the democrats have their tax hike and we'll be done with it. other than that, jimmy, i don't think this thing gets done. that's what i'm coming around to. >> well, i think that there's a chance to that. a chance for that to happen in the scenario that you just described. but i don't think that is what happens. frankly, i think with the vice president saying today that the issue of whether the top rate is 39.6 or 37 it's really doesn't matter. that was a huge olive branch as our colleague just said. this is a signal, a smoke signal like a vatican smoke signal sent from the administratio
rates on the top 2%. president obama has been very clear, he was all the way through the campaign that he would not give in on that. so that's i think what's important now. republicans don't like a lot of what was in the white house's opening offer. they dictate the $50 billion stimulus that was in the offer as a slap in the face. some of these little things we'll see taken out of file deal. >> to that point here's john boehner talking about when he saw that opening offer. >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i just never seen anything like it. you know, we got seven weeks between election day and the end the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> it's clear he's not pleased from his ha. is the president in danger of going too far? >> no. i think that everyone is amazed that president obama is pursuing an absolutely normal approach to negotiation. people over the last two years got so accustomed to his strategy of almost preemptive concession, you know, you don't like this, i'll give you more. i'll give you
rates on americans. they're saying they're willing to raise revenue, but president obama has one criteria in this debate and that's raising income rates on all americans. right now, the sides are in their two corners on this and nobody is moving. so we're really only a couple weeks out and there's this huge gap, and eamon was right in another aspect. there is this brush fire of conservative lawmakers who don't want to raise revenue at all. so this is a huge problem for speaker john boehner, huge problem for president obama, and for the american economy. >> so right. does this come down to political opinion? is that going to be the sway factor? and if so, where is the political opinion? who gets that vote? >> polls in the united states show that raising taxes on the wealthy is an attractive proposition, a popular proposition. this might come down to december 28th or december 29th, december 30th where both sides are still locked in their corners and one side has to give. now, president obama ran his campaign on raising income rates, raising marginal income tax rates on americans. s
. they have to decide. the administration is clear tax rates have to go up. obama has given in on it before and says there is a lot of pressure on him and the house democrats and, i think if they can come to some sort of agreement on the rate and if republicans are willing to push the other steps to next year, that is a deal. >> i think what argues against a big deal, includes any sort of cuts, for instance, up front on the entitlement side is, republicans -- tax rates are going up either way, this is the thinking among republicans before because you are going over the cliff or because the president has the whip hand and will force you into a deal and they don't want to take responsibility for the economic fallout that comes, and, the big deals includes spending cuts and they are signing up and their fingerprints are all over it and it is more likely what bill said. something extends the tax rate and we'll see you next year, at the debt ceiling debate and we'll talk about the middle class hostage, you have been holding over our deheads will b dead and... >> chris: juan, let's talk about tha
as the fiscal cliff. if that happens, it will trigger a recession, or worse. so, president obama is taking action and insisting that republicans agree to increase the existing marginal tax rates on the wealthiest top 2% of u.s. taxpayers. and of course, there is more to the deal. but there will be no negotiations on that big part of the deal unless that tax on the wealthiest 2% is negotiated now. the president could not be more emphatic in stressing the indispensable element of surmounting the cliff is that super-rich revenue. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite. or out of any kind of partisan bickering. but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> okay. here is john boehner, the republican house speaker. >> if you look at the plans that the white house have talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. >> republicans proposed raising $800 billion in extra revenues. and that revenue should come through tax reform and closing loopholes. happy new year. question, patrick, looking into the crystal ball and tell us about this janua
, i guess he is not going to beat around the bush for us. >> unfortunately, greta, president obama pretty well holds all the cards in this negotiation. if he wants to have tax increases or tax rates go up, i don't see how republicans can stop him, you know, because everybody's taxes are going to increase if congress does nothing, and president obama is the only person that can sign a bill into law and quite honestly, senator harry reid is the only person in the senate that can pass a bill in the senate as well. it sounds like people like howard dean want everybody's taxes to go up. maybe we should feel fortunate that president obama only wants the top two% to g two percent t. >> greta: do you anticipate republicans will vote for a rate increase if this should come to a vote? >> i don't believe they'll vote for a rate increase. what we'll vote for hopefully is to extend the current tax rates permanently and start working with president obama on true pro growth tax reform, but again, it sounds like treasury secretary geithner is happy to take the economy off the fiscal cliff, and aga
-election of president obama it pretty much insurances you will have low-interest rates for the next 18 to 24 months at least on the shored end of the yield curve. but i think bonds you need to have a very specific idea in terms of investing the fixed income side of your asset allocation because i don't know how much below 0 interest rates can go. and if the economy starts to get better, i think interest rates will go up. >> all right. given us a lot to think b jeff, as always, thank you so much. jeff saut, chief investment strategist at raymond james. >> tom: still ahead, tonight's word on the street: "special." with more companies announcing special dividends: just how special are they? >> tom: more companies joined the end of year rush today to pay shareholders a one-time "special" dividend or move up 2013 payouts. the actions reward investors with an extra check before tax rates likely increase in 2013. late today oracle accelerated cashaymes from nt year's second, third, and fourth quarters. hospital operator h.c.a. satellite t.v. company dish network, and women's clothing retailer cato announc
of specifics. noticeably missing: the higher taxes on high-wage earners which president obama has insisted on. the white house responded, saying "the g.o.p. proposal does not meet the test of balance. in fact, it actually promises to lower rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill." it's not just the federal government under pressure. credit ratings agency fitch calls the fiscal cliff the biggest concern for state credit in 2013. saying, "any meaningful federal deficit reduction is likely to lower state funding, forcing program elimination or backfilling." as the tax hikes and spending cuts approach, u.s. manufacturers saw business shrink last month. the institute of supply management's purchasing managers index fell unexpectedly to 49.5, down from 51.7 in october. a reading below 50 means business has fallen back into contraction. the november statistic is the lowest since july 2009. the dow fell 60, the nasdaq down eight, the s&p 500 lost six. >> susie: jeff saut says investors seem to be ignoring bad news, and this is a bullish sign. he's managing director and chief i
spending cuts but no tax rate increases. here is a picture of president barack obama answering questions on twitter about the fiscal cliff. he is promoting a reference to the estimated tax increase and middle income families would see if rates are not extended, the latest would extend tax cuts for everyone including americans and who the president wants to exclude. the white house says the proposal is too short on specifics. >> we can't guess what they are, they need to tell us and they look forward to the time when they are specific with the ways we have dealt with it. >> they don't like what republicans want to do to social security and more on that during my next update. reporting live, allison burns, ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> 5:14 in florida, they have released a photo of george zimmerman, showing george zimmerman with a swollen nose and blood did i face. they responded and said it adds nothing new to the case. the volunteer watch man is charged with second-degree murder and his trial is due to begin next june. >>> contra costa police officer was taken to the hospital after an
not raise tax rates. now republicans are pointing back to july 2011. this statement by president obama. >> yes, said give us $1.# trillion in additional revenues that could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes. eliminating deductions. and engaging in a tax reform process that could lowered rates generally while broadening the base. >> bret: the white house is saying it's out of context but not specifically how out of context. bring in the panel. steve hayes for "weekly standard." kirsten powers for daily beast. syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. charles? >> look, i love when the president says we need conceptual break through. meaning the republicans have to accept a hike in rates. what he means is a political surrender. because there is no economic reason why you cannot raise the money he wants raised. by doing it through eliminating deductions, inclusions and credit. number one as we saw he, himself, said so. a year-and-a-half ago. secondly, the same debt reduction commission he appointed and then ignored. spoke a
there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this quomz comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those rates. this was treasury secretary geithner earlier today on cnbc. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. all americans get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. so, in some sense it's a tax cut for all americans. >> reporter: bottom line, anderson, we're talking today but still at stalemate. >> yeah, i mean, it's a sign, jessica and dana, of just how lack -- how little progress there's been that a phone call is big news between these two. dana, we're hearing hints of some mo
else on the platform help and some ran away. >>> president obama says she holding firm on his position to raise the tax rates on the highest earning in effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2% that include all of you, ewhy. >> the bet business leaders in washington, d.c. after word he spoke by phone john boehner. they provide new details to the conversation. the republican plans include $60 billion in spending cuts to federal healthcare programs. >> we have to cut spending and i believe it's appropriate to put rev news on the. >> speaker boehner says his plan will bring in $800 million in new tax revenue. >>> on wall street stocks closed mix. nasdaq fell by 22. led by apple. analyst today suggests am could lose ground to competing android products. >>> big cuts coming to cityback. 11,000 jobs worldwide. that'll save more than a billion dollars a year in expense. bank plans to scale back consumer operation in other country. not sure how many jobs cut in the u.s. >>> and the annual tree lighting ceremony. >>> the tree lying with a help of ten-
want to change. there are two top rates. the 33 and the 35. under the obama plan, the 33 would go to 36, the 35 would go to 39.6. you know, if you're trying to negotiate a compromise, you can start to play with each one of those numbers and try to find something. the huge problem for the republicans on doing that is they're opposed to any kind of tax increase on principle. so it's very hard for them to go into the negotiations that way and say, well, we could live with 37. well, if you do that, you have violated everything you've said about what you stand for prior to that. min i mean, the easier way for boehner to handle this is to allow if not secretly encourage a vote to occur in the house on the senate bill. if boehner were to allow a couple of dozen of his people it to go sign the discharge petition so that that comes to a vote and it comes to a vote without boehner having his fingerprints on it, allowing some republicans to go over there and just vote for that, that's the cleanest way to get it done and violates the fewest principles of other republicans who otherwise had to cast
obama held his ground insigs on higher tax rates for the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. >>> the political wrangling but a damper on wall street as stocks finished slightly lower in a light strad trading day. the dow jones industrial lost 13, the nasdaq shed 5. shares in oakland-based pandora are plum etting after hours. the internet radio company posted better-than-expected quarterly results but lowered its outlook for the rest of the fiscal year. the company is facing stiffer competition from the likes of apple and microsoft. both companies are launching their own music service. pandora shares dropped 17% after the closing bell. >>> now, numbers and new numbers show home sales in california remain steady, a sign of the recovering housing market, but as john reports, in one bay area community, the supply of homes on the market is as tight as can be. >> tuesday's in walnut creek are normally reserved for real estate brokers to tour each other's available homes, but today the inventory was anything but normal. >> there are very few listings on the market, and that's causi
with raising rates as long as it's part of that package we described. >> a meeting or a phone call between john boehner and president obama, is that at all in the works? >> as far as we know, no. whether it's in the works, we could only hope, at this point we do not have any indication that it is scheduled right now. never mind the principles, we don't have any word that there has been communications between their staff at all. what's flying out of the public still appears to be flying out of private, which is not a lot. >> the members are going home for a nice long weekend. thanks very much for that. president obama isn't negotiating like we just heard. he's negotiating to raise the tax rates on the rich as a downpayment on a larger deal to come later as far as taxes are concerned and medicare is concerned. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top two percent, that includes all of you, yes. but not in anyway that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next yea
health care and cuts in discretionary spending. other than that, no specifics. president obama wasn't feeling it. he said the gop must agree to one thing to get anywhere close do a deal. >>. >> wee going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> speaker boehner fired back. >> this week, we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis. now, we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> so, here we are, just over three weeks from going over the fiscal cliff. you're probably getting a lot of stuff around the house this weekend wondering what the heck is going on in these houses in washington. this is the worst of american politics. they put themselves and their political games first and put your future and prosperity second, but hey, you voted them into office. remember what happened the last time washington got into a budget battle like this? lawmakers put a band-aid on the problem and the u.s. lost its aaa crediting rating. i've warned you over and over about the economi
they should join president obama to extend the tax rates for the highest income earners the law professor john buckley looks at the history of the tax, plus your e-mails, phone calls, and tweets. in a few moments, a forum on energy security. in a little less than an hour and a half, 20 years since russia and the u.s. agreed to secure and nuclear weapons in the former soviet states, and a look at proposals but could be negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> we are at the new york state museum. this is dedicated to the history of september 11 and the attacks at the world trade center. we have established the gallery to tell the story of the first moments of the attack using photographs from the world trade center site. there is a piece of steel. we put it in a place where the public can come and touch it. it gives a tangible experience. this is a piece of steel from the north towers. this is a dramatically bent piece of steel. this is within 10 floors of the impact, and you can see the openings with this piece of metal strips that would have held aluminum. every piece of steel marks which side o
executives in washington, president obama said republicans' aid to examine the reality that tax rates will rise for the wealthiest americans. >> we have seen some movement in the last several days with some republicans. there has been a recognition that, maybe, they can accept some rate increases as long as is combined with a serious impediment reform and additional spending cuts. and if we can get the leadership on the republican side to take that kramer, to acknowledge that reality, then the numbers are actually not that far apart. another way of putting this is, we could probably solve this in about one week. it is not that tough. >> new details have been revealed in the retail giant kermit factory where 120 dacre workers died in a fire last month. "the new york times" is reporting that wal-mart played a key role in blocking the improvement of safety features at the bangladeshi factory. one representative helped quash a proposal that would help to improve safety investments, calling them not financially feasible. documents found at the fire scene also show five of the factory's 14
back then, barack obama believed that lowering rates was good for the economy. dagen and connell, it is yours. connell: the war on wealth is where we begin today. dagen: get the government out of the markets. connell: the devil wears -- becoming our next ambassador to britain. dagen: holiday travelers paying up. the average ticket price topping $450. connell: everyone needs a few days off. it is the top of the hour. we will go to nicole petallides. good morning. nicole: good morning. let's take a look at what is going on here. let's take a look at jardin restaurants. it turns out they are not meeting the analyst expectations. let's take a look at the stock. it is near its lows of he day. their earnings will miss the analyst estimates. same-store sales dropping 3.2%. as a result, sales have diminished. how about the major market averages? the dow is higher, but the s&p and the nasdaq are lower. dagen: republicans finally pulling off their own plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. connell: the white house predictably saying, no deal. the parameters are there now. we can start to ima
as sanguine as you are with obama care and the tax rates going up and also the big burden of the debt. but you know, republicans have to have a growth message. and i just don't think they articulated any kind of alte alternative. david is right. all they talked about was obama's policies aren't working. but if you ask americans today what are republicans for, they don't have a solution. education, by the way, is a good one. i think republicans should be talking about choice. charter schools, vouchers, anything that give minorities more opportunities. >> david? >> look, i'm in favor of the republicans being a low tax party. here's the danger. when republicans say taxes, they mean income taxes. 80% of americans now pay more in payroll taxes than they pay in income taxes. payroll taxes will go up at the end of the year. the payroll tax holiday will end. that's a big tax increase for everybody. 80% of americans pay more. and where is the republican plan to hold the line on those people's taxes? if taxes only mean the tax, the income tax portion of tax burden for four-fitz four fifths of the countr
owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that view that they should give into what the president is suggesting, at least temporarily, and continue to negotiate on the rest because there's a lot of political pain here for republicans if we do get to the point where we go over the cliff because of those higher tax rate pateryers, guys. >> all right, eamon. thank you. >> the talk continues, but none of it face to face. be sure to catch a live interview with on
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. the president yesterday on the fiscal cliff. >> obama: let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2% that includes all of you guests but not in anyway that is going to affect your spending, your lifestyles or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year. 97% of small businesses don't see a single dime of tax increases next year and by doing that alone we raise almost a trillion dollars. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: associated press says the white house is signalling president obama is willing to let the country go over the cliff. this is a choice of the republican party if they are willing to do higher rates on the country, there is a lot to talk about, if they are not, they will push us over the cliff. tim geithner said there is no prospect in an agreement that doesn't include the tax rate going up on the top 2% of americans. he said we are not prepared to have the american economy held hostage to periodic threats. >> there you go. >> stephanie: and he point
's what this election is about. if there was one thing clear in this last election is that president obama said, if you re-elect me, i'm going to be in favor of raising the rates and raising taxes on the super wealthy in our country. and guess what, al, he won. and he won big. that's where the american people are. >> one of the things that is also a major issue is they are attacking a stimulus portion of the president's offer because for $95 a billion to extend payroll tax cut, $50 billion to fund infrastructure projects like roads and bridges. so they are not only playing games on how they are going to deal with the question of tax cuts across the board but they are really attacking the stimulus part of the president's offer. >> well, you and i both know the best way to grow is from the middle out, not from the top down. the best way to get this economy going is to get some jobs out there for some people and that's in infrastructure, education, job restraining. we've got to get people back to work. then, when they've got the money, they can go out and start buying things and the business
is quote, absolutely ready to let the economy go over that cliff, rather than drop the higher tax rates for top earners. president obama also told a group of ceos, he won't republicans inject the threat of a government default into the current negotiations. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it is a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. >> in spite of the rhetoric, president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone today for the first time in days. neither side is revealing what they discussed. >>> on wall street, stocks ended mixed with a fiscal cliff. the dow industrials gained 82 points amid optimism about a deal in washington perhaps in the next week. the tech heavy nasdaq fell 22 led lower by apple. its shares were 6% lower. apple's largest loss in a year. apple shares lost $37 to close at 538 and change. still apple stock is up more than $100 since the start of the year. >>> meantime, citigroup announced plans to cut 11,000 jobs, or 4% of its workforce. the company says the cuts will save more than $1 billion a year. the bulk o
the economy go over that cliff, rather than drop the higher tax rates for top earners. president obama also told a group of ceos, he won't republicans inject the threat of a government default into the current negotiations. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it is a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. >> in spite of the rhetoric, president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone today for the first time in days. neither side is revealing what they discussed. >>> on wall street, stocks ended mixed with a fiscal cliff. the dow industrials gained 82 points amid optimism about a deal in washington perhaps in the next week. the tech heavy nasdaq fell 22 led lower by apple. its shares were 6% lower. apple's largest loss in a year. apple shares lost $37 to close at 538 and change. still apple stock is up more than $100 since the start of the year. >>> meantime, citigroup announced plans to cut 11,000 jobs, or 4% of its workforce. the company says the cuts will save more than $1 billion a year. the bulk of the jobs are in global operations. i
to draft such a plan to compromise on a tax rate above 35% but below 39.2% unless the white house agreed to a tax revenue target well below the $1.6 trillion obama has demanded over the next decade. hello. open door anybody? that door on rates is clearly not entirely shut on the republican side nor on the president's side. "the post" lays out a scenario in which the house could adopt two competing bills, one extending the bush rates for everyone including the wealthy. the other extending the bush rates just for those making less than $250,000 a year. it gives republicans the opportunity to vote on both bills. both bills would then go to the senate. which would just pass the middle class tax cut bill or the house would end up passing what the senate already passed and that other bill just goes to die. so with it looking less and less likely washington will go over the cliff, that's gone. here are the real questions now. one, how big a deal will the parties make before the end of the year? two, have republicans stumbled into what could be political leverage at least in the short term? if a
% of south carolina angels approve of the barack obama which is higher than the governor's rating. but that same poll shows among registered voters that number is flip-flopped 49% disproved for the president. there is an opportunities for democrats. they have to get the voters registered. the people who would vote for candidates like that are here they live here. they are just not registered stovote and they haven't voted. >> all right. well are i think it's an interesting, i would say from my side of the spectrum, it's age interesting opportunity. it might mean that there are some cracks in the conservative armor of south carolina a little bit. adam beam, i appreciate you coming inside the war room. adam is political reporter for the state newspapers in south carolina. up next from sim poseymposiums -- symposia on the evils of clemency to the surprising amount of research they have accrued on the sexual lives of teenagers, the heritage foundation is a right-wing kool-aid-drinkers paradise. we will look at jim demint's new home a closer look next on t
that issue. with the deal that involves raising tax rates president obama is ready over the cliff. joining as well, congresswoman martian blackwell. if given a choice would you take no deal of fall and over the cliff or you take a deal that includes higher tax rates on the rich? >> to raise tax rates on anybody is the wrong step. what we have said for a long time is cut the spending. look at revenue. stuart: i have today on this. would you absolutely positively say no, i will not vote for raising tax rates on the rich. i would rather go over the fiscal cliff. >> i don't want to go over the fiscal cliff, but i am not for raising the tax rates. you are not getting to the heart of the problem. it is continuing to sweep of the rock. stuart: you may come to a point where that is the twisted your facing. if he don't say yes on raising tax rates we will go over the cliff. when the going to do if push comes to shove at the very end of this month. >> and what we're trying to do them all we have been trying to do for years is to not come to this point. had we been addressing the need for a pro-growt
of texas said that a demand to raise rates on top earners is, and this is her quote "just the right thing to do." representative mike simpson of idaho told bloomberg news "it's pretty obvious that obama won the election and he promised he was going to raise tax on the wealthiest and he said while it may be unpalatable, there is enough sane people left to get it done." well, maybe there is hope afterall. joining me now from washington is republican strategist and author of the book "blackwards," ron christie. thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room" again. >> governor, it is nice to see you again. >> jennifer: all right. so do you think republicans have recovered from losing the election? >> well, i think we have. i think there's no question that although president obama got less of the popular vote than he did the last time around, his electoral college numbers went up. he won. but the other thing that i would say to you governor, is senate republicans, the american people voted for the status quo. they
. >>> president obama's expected to travel to detroit on monday to push his proposal for raising tax rates on the wealthiest americans. the trip is part of his effort to get republicans to drop their opposition to increasing rates on the top 2%. meanwhile, house speaker john boehner challenged the president today to come up with a plan that can pass both houses of congress. >>> a new york man accused of shoving a stranger in front of a subway train is now charged with murder. the case has horrified people all over the world. >> the man who snapped a photo of the victim seconds before he was killed is defending himself. nbc's chris clackum explains why the photographer says he couldn't help the victim. >> reporter: the man new york city police took into custody tuesday made his first court appearance wednesday. 30-year-old davis is charged with second-degree murder. and he's believed to be the man on the right arguing with another man before pushing him into the path of an oncoming subway train monday. >> it was horrifying. it was terrible. >> reporter: but there's also outrage over the "ne
and the obama administration, the nation's jobless rate fell to 7.7% in november as employers added 146,000 new jobs. the jobless rate hasn't been this low during the entire obama administration, but that's only part of the story. a closer look also shows a big reason behind today's drop in the unemployment rate is that 350,000 people dropped out of the work force in november. they're discouraged, many of them are, that they simply quit and they're trying to find work. christine romans joins us from new york. we saw the unexpected drop in the unemployment rate, but christine, take us a little behind the numbers that make up the headlines. >> 7.7% is that unemployment rate, the lowest since december, 2008, from before the president took office. 146,000 jobs created, twice what economists have been expecting. they really didn't see the pull back because of hiring being depressed because of hurricane sandy. maybe you'll see some of that in the next month, but this was a strong report on its surface. digging in the numbers. look at the right side on that graphic, 14.4% underemployment. the percenta
be growing at a faster rate if the republican leadership had taken up and passed some of president obama's job initiatives including the american jobs act and had passed the middle income tax cut. having done that held off those initiatives, speaker boehner says democrats are slow walking the economy to a fiscal cliff, yet this is the same republican leadership that had the house in session barely a full day this week. we've had the election. the president was clear in the campaign that he was advocating and fighting for the middle income tax cut. a tax cut which, by the way, gives everyone 100% of taxpayers a tax break. but it also asks that the upper 2% pay their fair share. since that election four weeks ago, the president -- we've had time, the president has given the republicans flexibility to come up with a credible specific plan. what they offered in return was an empty letter lacking in specifics. it was a further manifestation of the lack of agreement in the republican caucus with division on the middle income tax cut and no agreement on specifics in their plan, not even senator
rate at 52%. >>> forbes is out with its 2012 most powerful people lest. president obama held onto the top spot for the second straight year. the pope climbed two notches from last year and landed in fifth place. facebook ceo mark zuckerberg tumbled from the top ten all the way to number 25. former president bill clinton held on to last year's ranking at number 50. tonight on rock center watch brian williams sit down with apple ceo, tim cook, number 35 on the forbes list by the way. >>> finally, this is no joke. though it began as one on facebook, pizza hut in canada has sent more than 100 bottles of pizza scented perfume to facebook fans. the fragrance boasts top notes of freshly baked hand tossed dough. pepper reason ri? >> new york mayor cory booker lives on food stamps. >>> the nfl steps up with $1 million for jovan belcher's daughter. >>> high res images from space. it allows images of city lights, gas flares, aur rar ras, to be seen by the naked eye. >>> stories making news across america on this thursday. in washington state, a 35 year relationship was officially legitimized
to cut spending and, i believe, it's super flowous. >> and that is a law, higher rates to go up for the 2072%, including all of you. yes. >> reporter: president obama was speaking to business leaders when he made the comment. he insists he will veto any bill not including tax increases on wealthier americans. >>> the defense department started planning for the roughly $500 billion in personnel cuts. the pin is not talking to the defense contractors of public plans. >>> the council made it clear that it's not following the mayor's lead on several issues. it was evident last night during a 13-hour meeting. the council voted against several bills. matt has more. >> reporter: the mayor appears to be concerned about the budget when it comes to a number of bills passed by the council yesterday and one thing that could put a hole is the plan by the council to lower speed camera fines. it passed last night and even though the mayor said the cameras are about safety, not mean, they generate a lot -- not money, they generate a lot of revenue and they could be close to $100 million the nex
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